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Bookkeeping – Holiday/Annual Leave Payout deducts from the Accrual, but Holiday Cash Out doesn’t – Why? (Updated Article)

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Bookkeeping – Holiday/annual leave payout deducts from the accrual, but holiday cash out doesn’t – Why?

Bookkeeping – Holiday/annual leave payout deducts from the accrual, but holiday cash out doesn’t – Why?

( 31 Aug 2017 – Information corrected, due to Sue’s advice in comments below – I learn new tricks every day, even when right before you !!! Thanks Sue!)

Client Skype’d Hi Paul, I’ve had a look and our special Pay Category, Holiday Cash Out doesn’t seem to be deducting from the balance of Holiday Leave Accrual. It’s not listed under entitlements under the Payroll Category List window.

Answer – Yes it is NOT linked to the accrual entitlement because it may only have one wage category (can be) linked (at a time to a) to the pay wage category – the Holiday/Annual Leave wage pay category that is regularly used, is linked to the Holiday Accrual and deducts from the accrual – if you go to Entitlements, and then open the Holiday Leave Accrual, you will see down at the bottom it says it is linked to Holiday Leave.

Your Holiday Cash Out is not an a usual entitlement (only with some awards) – it will be under the Wages Payroll Category to be used when paid :), but it has no effect on the accrual if not linked – until linked.

Client Skype’d – Thanks. So how do we reduce the accrued holiday leave by the hours that have been paid as a holiday cash out which is allowed in the award, up to 2 weeks per year? Can we put it as an entitlement that gets deducted or can we manually deduct from accrued holiday pay?

Answer – You tick it to link to the Holiday Leave Entitlement Accrual at the bottom for linked cateories! It needs be manually deducted – the more automatic way is to set up the Hol Cash Out as a separate entitlement, and choose to link it to the Holiday Cash Out wage category.

BUT – If the 2 weeks are optional and it is linked to the Accrual, it will adjust the hours WHEN Holiday is cashed out – automatically adjusted for you! it will be difficult to balance with the regular Holiday accrual if not taken every year – it becomes messy – if not used regularly but occasional years.

(with this correction of the info, past Cashed Out Holiday still needs to be adjusted to the Holiday Accrual as follows –

I would adjust the Accrual in this way – do a paycheque with ZERO hours, and in the lower lines at Holiday Accrual, adjust the holiday accrual with NEGATIVE the hours cashed out, and write a note in the memo for the reason and date the cash out occurred, there should be no super generated, ensure any other allowances etc are ALL ZERO also – then record, and this pay updates the accrual and there is a clear record with note and date for the reason for the adjustment.

Client Skype’dOK I will try that. There’s only a few done so far. So will need to do that for those ones. May make an adjustment today so these are all done now and up to date. Thanks.

Answer – Yes, do as a pay, then it updates and provides a note and proper record on the staff pays record.

Client Skype’d –  Thanks. Is the other option to use the “Unused Holiday Pay” for Cashed Out pay as well?

Answer – NO Unused is for a different reason – when they leave and still have Unused Leave owing due to them on leaving. The Unused Holiday can ALSO be linked to the Holiday Accrual will ALSO NOT decrease the Holiday Accrual, but it is used to be clear what the pay is for – and when you enter the Termination Date in the card it closes OFF the entitlements.

Client Skype’d –  OK thanks. Thought I’d check. Will org. Cheers.

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2 thoughts on “Bookkeeping – Holiday/Annual Leave Payout deducts from the Accrual, but Holiday Cash Out doesn’t – Why? (Updated Article)

  1. Hi Paul,

    I just came across your advice re the cashing out of annual leave and it not deducting from the accrued balance. If you were referring to MYOB I have been able to have it deduct for some time now. Under the Entitlement Name – Linked Wages Category you can link more than one category to deduct, including the unused leave paid out when staff leave with a balance owing.

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    • HI Sue!
      You are right!! – being taught to allocate to one category, and having one box for the link gives the impression only one is allowed – and having never been asked or required to link other categories to reduce an entitlement accrual, I have never needed to explore the possibility to do otherwise!
      Thank you -appreciate the update – I have updated the post also to correct it!!!

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